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FDIC: Payday Loans a Superior Form of Short Term Credit

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The November 2008 FDIC Study of Bank Overdraft Programs (ODP) proves beyond the shadow of a doubt what we’ve known all along: payday loans are a much cheaper short-term credit alternative than bank overdraft protection programs.

They go on to state the following conclusive points:

You can bounce a check for $60 and get charged $27 in NSF fees by your bank, or you can take out a $60 payday loan for $9.
Not even the ideologues can counter this argument. Simple fact. Right there in black and white. Just read the entire report yourself.

What do you think about the conclusions of the FDIC report?

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Transcapitalist - Journal - YadYap hopes to offer a p2p alternative to payday loan market

Check out transcapitalist.com.  They have a great write up about YadYap.

Transcapitalist - Journal - Yadyap hopes to offer a p2p alternative to payday loan market

Thank you to transcapitalist.com again for the great post.

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FDIC Study of Bank Overdraft Programs

YadYap will harness the power of social interaction

YadYap will harness the power of social interaction

A study published by the FDIC in November titled FDIC Study of Bank Overdraft Programs is very interesting as it applies to the use of payday loans. This study is a very in depth study of over 1,100 FDIC insured Banks that have Overdraft Programs. WSJ.com Chimed in on the issue with an article titled Consumers Vent on Overdraft Fees. This post simply focuses on 3 key issues/questions:

  1. What was the FDIC summary of the Banks Overdraft Programs relating to fees charged?
  2. How does this (should this) apply to payday loans?
  3. In what way does YadYap digest this information?

Issue 1

The summary of fees quoted from the report is as follows:

For almost all study population banks operating an automated overdraft program, the main fee associated with the program was an NSF usage fee. Usage fees reported by these banks ranged from $10 to $38; the median fee was $27, charged on a per-transaction basis in almost all cases. In this context, a $27 fee charged for a single advance of $60 that was repaid in two weeks roughly translated into an APR of 1,173 percent. Many surveyed banks (24.6 percent) assessed additional fees on accounts that remained in negative balance status in the form of flat fees or interest charged on a percentage basis.

It is interesting here that there is no use of the term payday loan, in fact the term payday loan is not used within the 120 pages of the study. However they use the median fee charged of $27 on a $60 advance for two weeks and state the APR of 1173%. The payback in a two week period sounds alot like they are comparing it to a typical payday loan. The bottom line here is that the FDIC is telling us that overdraft fees are VERY expensive especially when looked at on an APR basis. It is also interesting to note that the WSJ.com article referenced above does state that many consumers use their banks overdraft programs as a payday loan.

Issue 2

There is an absolute need for short term financing in our country. That fact is evident by the billions in revenue generated by payday loan companies in the U.S. every year.

Without expressly stating it the FDIC is telling us that the overdraft program that many banks use is a terrible source of short term financing. More expressly many states as well as some politicians on the Federal level are telling us that Payday loans are not a good source of short term financing. The brass tacks of it all is that there has yet to be a better solution provided for the average American who needs a source for short term financing.

Issue 3

YadYap views the FDIC report as a positive in terms of talking apples to apples with opponents of traditional payday loans. If anyone is going to argue that payday loans are bad for those who use them, they need to provide evidence of a better source of short term financing. It is easy to find a problem (especially one with a 500% APR) but much more difficult to comprise a solution.

As we have said in the past, YadYap is working to provide the best possible solution to Americans who need short term financing. We are leveraging everything we know about the current payday loan model as well as looking outside that mold to offer peer-to peer short term loans. We plan to harness the power of social interaction and rating systems to incentivise borrowers to pay back their loans.

We hope to see many people on both sides of the isle support the YadYap model. We truly believe there is a better solution than both overdraft fees and current payday loans.

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Payday Peer Lending Updates for 2009-03-23

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From Rickety: YadYap Peer-to-Peer Payday Loans

Rickety has a great write up about YadYap and the P2P lending platform we are going to be rolling out:

» YadYap Peer-to-Peer Payday Loans - Rickety

Check out Rickety’s blog today!

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Payday Peer Lending Updates for 2009-03-16

  • Savings Up; Short Term Loans Still Critical in 2009: Most economists are predicting 2009 to be one of the hardes.. http://tinyurl.com/bqxlpv #
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Savings Up; Short Term Loans Still Critical in 2009

Most economists are predicting 2009 to be one of the hardest years the economy has seen in decades. The following points appear as polar opposites, but will work together to help people make it through the tough times ahead:

American’s are starting to save more according to an article in the New York Times titled “Consumers Are Saving More and Spending Less.” An increase in the savings rate will slow the economy in the short term as businesses will see smaller revenues. However, more saving will bring long term benefits to the overall health of the economy.

The smart way to use debt is not using it to acquire things you cannot afford, but rather using it as a tool where taking on the debt makes more sense than the alternative.

Debt is a much needed and very useful strategy in our world. For example if I need a car to commute to my job (if there is no public transportation available), but do not have the cash on hand to buy one, it obviously makes sense to use debt in order to have a job and make money.

At the same time there must be a balance between spending, using debt, and saving. The increasing savings rate is good! We want people as a whole to have some security or back up if they have expenses that exceed what they can afford to pay from their income.

You may wonder why this is coming from a company that is offering short term payday style financing. Regardless of the overall savings rate in our economy, or if the economic state is good or bad there will always be a need for an affordable short term financing solution. We do not currently believe there is such a solution available.

YadYap encourages saving and at the same time using debt wisely. We are committed to offering an affordable product that will allow our borrowers to make it from payday to payday when there is not a short term solution that is better for them. In the year(s) of economic uncertainty ahead many people may be faced with simply getting by until better times arrive. This is where YadYap comes in to offer the best solution for them.

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The Payday Loan Industry - Questions, Controversy and the Delicate Balance of Risk / Reward

Many of our colleagues have brought up great points and questions regarding YadYap and the payday loan industry in general. While we are not ready to divulge all the details behind YadYap, we hope this post will help clarify some important points.

Let’s start with a macro look at the payday loan industry. The payday loan industry is large; according to industry estimates over $45 billion in loans are issued annually with roughly 8% of these loans taking place online.  These loans generate over $8.5 billion of fee income. These statistics are telling of the demand and need for short term loans.

The name of the game from the lenders perspective is risk adjusted returns. In today’s market, if a lender wants to invest in payday loans his / her only option is to invest in an actual cash advance / payday loan store or an online payday lender. We know of investors that are compensated as high as 3% per month on their invested capital.  Yes, that is 36% annually and the stores still stay in business and make profits for themselves after factoring in default rates and paying investors.  In fact many communities throughout the US have placed moratoriums on the number of payday loan stores that can be in a given geographic area due to over building. An article in the NY Times, that Weiwen Ng referred to in a post, stated there are more check cashing, cash advance and payday loan stores in the US than both McDonald’s and Starbucks combined.

There is room to make the process more efficient by allowing investors to lend directly through an innovative technology driven platform that helps manage default risk and incentivizes borrowers. We believe our system will enable investors to make attractive social and monetary returns on their money while benefiting borrowers with lower costs of capital.  Eventually cheaper, longer term loans will be available that will allow borrowers to break the debt cycle.

When talking about “fair returns” or “fair interest rates” the kicker is definitely in the default rate. Industry rates remain high due to the number of defaults payday loans produce.  We believe that in today’s payday loan market the borrower is often times not adequately represented.  By helping the borrower first meet their short-term liquidity needs, then educating them and enabling them to attract cheaper capital and eventually helping them qualify for cheaper longer term loans borrowers will see the value in using YadYap.

The current cycle of borrowing, paying off the loan and borrowing again is not helping anyone solve their long-term liquidity needs. Many payday borrowers get multiple payday loans throughout a year, often as many as five or more per year. While we are not encouraging this, it shows that these borrowers generally pay back their loans only to take out another loan a short time later and get caught in a debt trap without options.  YadYap plans to change this by enabling, recognizing, and rewarding positive performance to create a clear path to end the debt cycle.

In today’s market, subprime borrowers need short term capital in a significant way. The volumes of payday loans generally increase during times of economic contraction. On the flip side, defaults generally increase as well which compounds the liquidity problem. With subprime loans being one of the primary drivers of the dislocation in the credit markets, these borrowers are experiencing a severe tightening in credit options.

State governments have begun stepping in by setting caps on loan fees. There has been talk that Obama may attempt to implement a 36% rate cap for all consumer loans in the US.  If “pop a cap economics” (Thanks for the new terminology Peer Lend) go into effect this will significantly alter the $45 billion loan industry. This would likely cause more physical store fronts to close and drive more loan volumes to the Internet through offshore lending companies. There is no question, with over $45 billion of demand it will go somewhere. Offshore lenders generally charge fees in excess of $25 per $100 lent a significant increase from most current retail locations. Credit Unions and to a lesser extent banks are starting to make some inroads but are faced with challenges of servicing this niche in a profitable way.

At YadYap we are dedicated and focused on innovation and the P2P model by using technology to deliver a platform that will better the lives of many. We stay well informed on current laws and potential changes that could impact the industry. We will play within the legal bounds but caps will naturally limit the number of people who will have credit options. YadYap will put its money where its mouth is by participating as a lender to prove out this new model. Ruling out socialism or free money, the best model will allow competition, borrower representation and profits to lenders for risk taken.

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Flip payday around and it spells YadYap

There are three main issues within the payday loan industry that helped give rise to the creation of YadYap:

  1. The public’s outcry with loan rates charged by traditional payday lenders, and the lack of a good solution.
  2. The non existence of a true marketplace to create competitive payday loan rates.
  3. The inability for payday loan borrowers to build credibility as they successfully pay off loans.

The public outcry can be heard from around the country. Some states have banned traditional payday loans all together, others have legislated interest rate caps, while others still allow payday loans in all forms. The most recent political battles can be seen in the change in Arizona payday loans, and Ohio payday loansYadYap is working toward a solution that will eventually bring lower cost payday loans to everyone who needs them.

What do you do when you want to get the best rate for a car loan, mortgage, or any other loan? Well, like many other people you may visit Lending Tree “when banks compete, you win.” Or any other website that creates competition between lenders. Other great examples now are Prosper and Lending Club. Why do you do this? Because you will get the best rate that the market is willing to give you. Now consider someone with an immediate need for a small amount of money so that a check they just wrote does not bounce, or so they can make their car payment. There are two problems. First, they do not have the time to shop around, and second there is not a marketplace for Payday loans. YadYap will solve this issue by creating 24 hour auctions where multiple bidders will place offers to fund a payday loan request. Now, where would you go if you needed a payday loan?

One of the reasons eBay works so well is because of their rating system. Who in their right mind would sell a product to someone on line who they know nothing about and trust that it would be a smooth transaction? When you transact on eBay you can see that the other person has for example a 99% positive rating, and you are ready and willing to do business with them. YadYap will bring this same philosophy to payday loans. Lenders will be able to see if the borrower has other outstanding payday loans, and will be rated according to how they have performed on previous YadYap loans.

YadYap will change the way you read the word payday!

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P2P Liquidity Concerns at Prosper and Lending Club - No Problem for YadYap

In an online Wall Street Journal article titled “Peer-To-Peer Lenders Get Into Secondary Market” Arden Dale discusses the reasons for, and benefits of having a secondary market is association with peer-to-peer lending platforms.  Here are the main take-aways from the article as well as how YadYap’s system differs.

I am sure it was apparent to the founders of both Prosper and Lending Club before they launched that there would soon be a need for liquidity. The lenders within both platforms have now shown a demand for it and both companies have responded well. There just simply are not too many people out there that want large amounts of money tied up for three years. We commend both Prosper and Lending Club for taking the initiative and paving the way for liquidity in the new world of P2P lending.

The secondary market is critical for the growth of these traditional P2P platforms (assuming P2P has been around long enough to use the word traditional). With this new addition, however, will come more expenses for lenders. Currently there is a 1% fee to sell a note on Lending Club. These fees are necessary and in relative terms small, but none the less, they are costs that will reduce lenders overall returns.

YadYap offers short term (2-4 week) payday loans. This model provides almost instant liquidity for lenders. Active lenders with multiple loans outstanding will have the luxury of seeing loans turn over daily and will have those funds available in their account to fund new loans.

We are excited to see our system play an important role in the peer-to-peer lending world. We believe that lenders will experience the excitement of the YadYap model within weeks of placing their first loans!

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